How to Become a Ferry Pilot: 10 Steps

How to Become a Ferry Pilot: 10 Steps

I have seen a lot of posts on social media recently about people looking to get into ferry flying. I did a video on this several years ago where I talked about how I got into it, and while the industry has changed, many things have still stayed the same. I do believe in mentoring and helping the aviation community and the people coming into the industry now, and hope that we continue to mentor our young instead of trying to eat them alive!

If you are trying to get jobs, these are some things to think about:

  1. You need experience to get experience. This seems impossible, but there are ways to get experience without having it.
  2. Be willing to take an entry level job. I know that Van Bortel is often hiring ferry pilots. The pay isn’t great, but they will train you and you will get a lot of experience. 
  3. Become a CFI. Even if you don’t want to teach, many times the owners of recently purchased aircraft need training and they will choose a ferry pilot who can sign their logbook over someone who can’t.
  4. Be smart and use good judgment. Employers and customers aren’t impressed with harrowing tales of narrowly escaping danger. I have people who interview with my organization who brag about times they flew through a thunderstorm and escaped it or they flew with known mechanical problems and somehow pulled it off, and this is not a good thing to an employer.
  5. If you want to get into International flying, you will need to go with someone who has done it before. While Canada/Mexico are fairly easy, I know as an insurance agent and ferry pilot that an insurance company won’t cover a pilot for a crossing without ocean crossing experience. The only way to get this is to work with a company who does it and trains people (there are plenty out there – the Flight Academy is to name one). People can be guarded on having new pilots go along because they don’t want the competition, but the right candidate will find the right company to train them (don’t give up!). 
  6. Networking is everything. It’s rare that I have hired “off the street”, although I remember getting personalized letters through SNAIL MAIL from a candidate who showed incredible dedication and perserverence, and he has been a great ferry pilot. I knew I had to offer him a job or he would never give up! Other people I met through mutual friends, or even one that I had lunch with at a random picnic table at Oshkosh!
  7. Never turn down the opportunity to fly a new type. Having time in type is critical for insurance, so fly as many planes as you can.
  8. Specialize in something. Almost everyone can fly a Cessna 172 or PA28. While those type of planes do make up a significant amount of the market, the jobs end up in bidding wars and don’t pay that well… if you can even get the job! If you are the go to person for a turbine Bonanza… well then you can get the salary you want because very few people can get covered by insurance.
  9. The best money is in specialty aircraft and international. This means anything that is rare, needs a type rating, or goes overseas. Specialize in something and that will help you obtain jobs. While there might not be as many King Airs being sold as Cessna 172s, you will bring in a greater salary with something specialized.
  10. Never give up. Don’t get discouraged. Keep fighting for your dreams. I have a friend of mine who sent over 200 resumes out, all specifically tailored to employers, and finally got a job. Right now we have more pilots than jobs, but perseverance is key!

I hope this has been helpful. Good luck to everyone in their aviation career search!

Sarah is currently a FAA Safety Team Lead Representative, NAFI Master Instructor, Gold Seal flight instructor, and 757/767 pilot for a Major U.S. airline. Sarah holds an ATP, CFI, CFII, MEI and has flown over 6500 hours. She holds a pilot license in 4 different countries (USA, Canada, Belize and Iceland – EASA) and has flown over 147 different types of airplanes in 20 different countries including oceanic crossings in small aircraft. She is the owner and chief pilot of FullThrottle Aviation; which started out in 2013 as a small flight school and grew to an international business with over 20 pilots moving airplanes around the world today. She continues to stay involved in general aviation through her leadership roles and volunteering for different aviation organizations. Although much of her flying is now professional in nature, she enjoys flying her Super Cub, Patches, and instructing her Cessna 170, Stanley, on her days off. As a regular fly-in attendee of Oshkosh, she enjoys the company and camaraderie that general aviation brings.

Supply and Demand and the Falling Value of Pilots

Supply and Demand and the Falling Value of Pilots

Supply and Demand and the Falling Value of Pilots

Pilot Wanted: $10/hour!

I was recently perusing some aviation related groups on social media to find that a particular screenshot of a job opportunity had been making rounds. The screenshot detailed a job posting for a helicopter pilot to work part time for $10/hour. Throughout many groups, people both mocked the low pay, chastised those considering it, and many even offered their thoughts on how their career progression involved working for pennies putting their “dues in” toward a lucrative career. It was a stark contrast to the good times that we have seen over the past few years where pilots went from sub-par pay to prosperity and proliferating wages across the industry. While to many it is upsetting to see wages so low and no shortage of pilots willing to take it, we must remember that nobody is truly incorrect in their opinion toward the falling value of pilots we have been seeing since the pandemic started.

I recently had one of my ferry pilots reach out to me about some concerns he had in his local area. This ferry pilot was one of thousands who ended up without a job when one of the regional airlines ceased operations amid the pandemic. He was upset because there was another pilot who was employed and being paid full wages by an airline who was trying to take business from him. I talked to him and as we discussed it, I told him that it wasn’t unique that a pilot would only look out for themselves, and that there are many retired and active pilots out there that would take a job, perhaps if only to ease boredom regardless of pay, even if it meant taking income away from someone else who needed it. While we can debate the morality of such behavior, in a way we are asking for a form of collectivism in the industry when we ask others who aren’t financial struggling to not take jobs away from those who are. In fact, unions are the prime example of an effective way of pooling together to keep working conditions good and wages higher within an industry; but for the most part most aviation jobs outside of the airlines are not unionized. I remember someone advertising free ferry pilot services, and while many responses were negative toward the poster, I remember one particular comment of “since when we did we have a ferry pilot union?” That hit the nail on the head – supply & demand outside of unionism defines the going wages for a particular job. And at that, unions still feel the effects of supply & demand and are constantly adjusting for the current industry. In many cases recently, airline unions temporarily prevented furloughs by presenting temporary concessions to the pilot group.

Whenever there is a surplus of pilots, there will be a shortage of jobs. This is why we have seen falling wages across the board. And unfortunately, there will always be someone who will take those low wages as they are still receiving another form of compensation that is often overlooked in our industry – flight time and experience. When someone is faced with renting a plane or helicopter to meet the requirements or working for that experience at $10/hour, we can see the obvious choice for many, particularly our younger and lower time pilots. There used to be a jet operator in Houston that you could pay $15/hour to in order to sit right seat in the jet, which was required for their insurance! However, when pilots were in short supply, they ended up having to pay for the SIC instead of getting paid. This is the basic economics of supply and demand, something we are seeing the negative consequences of across the board.

This article is not meant to condemn those who are taking the low paying jobs or those seeking additional employment in spite of their income, this is merely a discussion of why we are seeing the changes we have all felt over the past few months. While Socrates debated with his brother that people’s behavior only exists for self-interest, I tend to think that we often have to choose a balance between our own needs and that of our industry. This isn’t always black and white and we often have to make decisions that are the best for our own lives and families, in addition to balancing its effect on our future. While many would love to see collectivism rise and we band together to rid the industry of opportunists paying low wages, while supply is high and demand is low this will continue to be the norm. With time the industry will continue to ebb and flow toward supply and demand, and in the future, there will be times of prosperity again where a shortage of pilots leads to high wages and great opportunities. While it’s easy to get discouraged by the falling wages, we must remember that perseverance is key and while fogging a mirror was the minimum in the past to get hired in may jobs, now comes the time to differentiate ourselves from the competition in order to be successful. This now comes through networking, hard work, and sacrifice; but in the end the reward is just as sweet.

Sarah is currently a FAA Safety Team Lead Representative, NAFI Master Instructor, Gold Seal flight instructor, and 757/767 pilot for a Major U.S. airline. Sarah holds an ATP, CFI, CFII, MEI and has flown over 6500 hours. She holds a pilot license in 4 different countries (USA, Canada, Belize and Iceland – EASA) and has flown over 147 different types of airplanes in 20 different countries including oceanic crossings in small aircraft. She is the owner and chief pilot of FullThrottle Aviation; which started out in 2013 as a small flight school and grew to an international business with over 20 pilots moving airplanes around the world today. She continues to stay involved in general aviation through her leadership roles and volunteering for different aviation organizations. Although much of her flying is now professional in nature, she enjoys flying and instructing in her Super Cub, Patches, and her Cessna 170, Stanley, on her days off. As a regular fly-in attendee of Oshkosh, she enjoys the company and camaraderie that general aviation brings.

Challenge, Resilience, and Triumph

Challenge, Resilience, and Triumph

Every time I hear “Whatever It Takes” by Imagine Dragons, I can’t help but to think of where I was where I first heard that song. 

It was a cold March in 2018 and I had just finished ferrying a Cessna 210 across the ocean to the Netherlands. It was my very first winter crossing, which started in February 2018 with my assistant chief pilot at the time whom I was training, Marcus Narcisse. Unfortunately, along the way we spent 4 days in the arctic with a mechanical issue in Iqualuit due to a mechanic’s error. Due to the delay, the weather had turned and there wasn’t going to be another window across the ocean for a few weeks, which is normally atypical since it’s often too cold in February/March to pick up ice but it was an unusually warm winter. With only a normally normally aspirated piston aircraft without flight into known icing protection, we had to wait it out for better weather and the cycle to flip over the North Atlantic. We ended up leaving Iceland and during the 2 weeks back in the USA, I attended the annual Women in Aviation conference held in Las Vegas. I had been trying for the 737 type rating scholarship for 2 years, having interviewed the year before and narrowly missing the award. I was trying so hard to make it to the major airlines, doing everything I could. I watched as the people around me with less experience got hired on, wondering when it was my turn and when I could stop taking the high risk ferry jobs. So for the 2nd year in a row, I interviewed at Women in Aviation for the International Society of Women Airline Pilots 737 type rating scholarship for the 2nd year in a row, and then headed out straight to Iceland afterward to finish the Cessna 210 ferry solo.

I had prayed hard for good weather, and for the first crossing in my life, actually had clear skies all the way to Iceland. I made it uneventfully to Rotterdam and then took the train to Amsterdam, where I decided to explore for a few days for a mini vacation after the trip. I found myself at the Ice Bar in Amsterdam, which is a popular tourist destination with a bar and seating area made exclusively of ice. I met a very nice couple from Sweden and we ended up hanging out. After exiting the ice bar, I sat down at the bar and heard “Whatever it Takes” for the first time, and pulled out my app to figure out the title of the song to download it. I then saw a voicemail on my phone from the scholarship coordinator. I had won the 737 scholarship! It was the first step in a series of events that eventually led me to interview and get hired on with my dream airline, and eventually start crossing the ocean in 757s and 767s instead of Cessna 210s.

At the Amsterdam Icebar

Whenever I hear that song, it reminds me of the challenge, resilience, and triumph when I faced an uncertain time when I was worried about my future and career. It’s a stark reminder of how I tried my best, was turned down with significant defeat multiple times, and didn’t give up; and finally made it to my dream. And the song “Whatever it Takes” had just become my motto – something to remind me of how I continued doing what it took to accomplish my dream. I know many of you out there are feeling the same now – knocked down, challenged, and wondering about your career and future. If there was one word to summarize the entire pilot career, it would be “resilience.” This career is full of challenges and defeats, but in the end, resilience will triumph. 


Sarah is currently a FAA Safety Team Lead Representative, NAFI Master Instructor, Gold Seal flight instructor, and 757/767 pilot for a Major U.S. airline. Sarah holds an ATP, CFI, CFII, MEI and has flown over 6400 hours. She holds a pilot license in 4 different countries (USA, Canada, Belize and Iceland – EASA) and has flown over 147 different types of airplanes in 20 different countries including oceanic crossings in small aircraft. She is the owner and chief pilot of FullThrottle Aviation; which started out in 2013 as a small flight school and grew to an international business with over 20 pilots moving airplanes around the world today. She continues to stay involved in general aviation through her leadership roles and volunteering for different aviation organizations. Although much of her flying is now professional in nature, she enjoys flying and instructing in her Super Cub, Patches, and her Cessna 170, Stanley, on her days off. As a regular fly-in attendee of Oshkosh, she enjoys the company and camaraderie that general aviation brings.

The Aviation Inspiration of Kermit Weeks Fantasy of Flight

The Aviation Inspiration of Kermit Weeks Fantasy of Flight

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August 31, 2013

It all began when I was sitting in the Cessnas2Oshoksh tent during EAA Airventure 2013. I had been working with the Cessnas2Oshkosh on their training videos and had flown my shared Cessna 182 alongside dozens of other Cessnas during the mass arrival. I had pitched a tent under the wing, endearingly known as the smallest tent at Oshkosh. I was browsing Facebook while waiting for my phone to charge in the little charging area that had been set up and powered by our sponsors. I scrolled down to see that Fantasy of Flight had a sweepstakes contest to fly with Kermit Weeks, and decided to apply. I had been to Fantasy of Flight 2 years before at Sun and Fun 2011, but never as an honored guest. Although I do consider myself to be an optimist, I knew that I never had any success winning contests. However, I did not let the slim odds persuade me as I was a recently instrument and commercially rated single engine pilot eager for opportunities in the fine new world of aviation.

A few weeks pass after Oshkosh, and out of the blue I received an email that I had won the Fantasy of Flight “Fly with Kermit Weeks” sweepstakes. I clearly remember the excited exclamations that filled the halls of the office when I received the email. It seemed that my luck was changing and a door had opened up for another amazing opportunity. I decided to go with the “I just won the lottery” response and immediately accepted the opportunity of a lifetime. According to the organizers, the first winner had not responded to their selection email, and I was selected next. The winner of the Explore, Express, Experience Sweepstakes was to fly with Kermit in his Fieseler Fi-156 Storch. I arranged the dates and times with the organizer and figured the most efficient way to get from Texas to Florida was by way of the Cessna 182.

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Fantasy of Flight sports a grass runway that Kermit uses to fly his aircraft. It’s a private airstrip and Kermit personally invited me to land at the museum. The journey started in Houston, TX with my first stop in Bay Minette (also coined “Babe Minette”), Alabama. The airport has been known to have women in hooters outfits working at the FBO, and was a popular destination for military training flights and general aviation pilots alike. The fuel was also decently priced, and the FBO always had free gumbo and ice cream available to visiting pilots. As a typical August day, there was no way to avoid storms around the Gulf of Mexico. As I approached Northern Florida, I started to see the storms ahead. While I did have experience with cross country flights, I hadn’t flown around Florida and ended up a bit more off the coast than I would have liked. However, I managed to keep the airplane dry with the help of visual cues and NEXRAD, and continued into the night to Kissimmee. Normally there is a TFR above Disney, but on an instrument approach you fly right over it at 2000ft. I distinctly remember flying overhead and looking down past the wheel pants as fireworks lit up the air beneath my wheels over Disney. I landed safely in Kissimmee and went to a hotel for a good night’s sleep. After all, I was expected at Fantasy of Flight the next morning by Kermit and the crew.

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The next morning, I was up early to make sure that the arrival into Orlampa (FA08), as Kermit has coined Fantasy of Flight, was uneventful. I executed a perfect soft field landing and taxied back over to the maintenance hangar where Kermit was waiting. He came over and shook my hand, and said that since I had traveled so far that he would “drop the ropes” and give me the experience of a lifetime. For many years I was bound to secrecy about the extra rides until recently.

The first airplane I flew with Kermit was a 1909 Curtiss Pusher Model D replica. It was one of my first experiences in an experimental aircraft, and it looked very old but in immaculate shape. He gave me a set of goggles and a cloth hat to put on since there was no cockpit at all. It was like flying a lawn chair with a whisky compass to guide the pilot. We flew just above the tree lines and landed within the length of the runway. The airspeed indicator looked like a 2ndgrade science project beaker that you would measure liquids in. The airplane didn’t like to turn well, so a few times Kermit had to jump out and turn it to get it re-aligned with the runway. It was one of the most exhilarating moments of my career, and it gave me a great appreciation for those early 20thcentury aviators.

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After the Curtiss Pusher flight, he prepared the Storch for the main event. I hopped into the Storch and was immediately impressed by it’s short field performance. I attribute my interest in STOL to this moment as we were able to take off and land on the paved area in front of his hangar! After takeoff, we joined up for a quick formation with a Stearman flown by one of his pilots. The Stearman put their smoke on and then bowed out to continue the ride they were giving to another client. Kermit and I flew around the Fantasy of Flight property and lakes, and then Kermit demonstrated the plane’s incredibly short takeoffs and landings. I was grinning from ear to ear. I had started flying N148T, the Super Cub I would eventually buy and become my beloved Patches.

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After flying in the Storch, Kermit gave us passes to the museum and the WingWalkAir ropes experience. As I walked through the exhibits, I was once again in awe at the level of detail and effort put into each exhibit. Kermit never let anything to anyone else- his hand was in everything and his passion would show through every little detail. Part of the tour included an audio tour for each of the exhibits. I distinctly remember seeing a little girl watching an early 1900s barnstormer for the first time and getting her first airplane rid. I imagined that this likely inspired her, and figured that I would have been a barnstormer if alive in that era.

After touring the museum, we had lunch at the cafe at the museum, and then walked out to the flightline for Kermit’s daily flight display. Kermit had pulled out his P-51D, “Cripes
A’Mighty 3rd”, and it sitting there shining on the ramp in front of a packed audience. Kermit began to give the history behind the plane, and then unbeknownst to me looked over and “Sarah, do you
want to fly in my P-51?” In complete disbelief, I apparently shrieked (according to witnesses) and ran out to the plane fast as I could, just in case he would change his mind had I merely sauntered over. I had always wanted to fly in a P-51,
but at the time it was never in the budget. It was the experience of a lifetime. After all, I was flying with an aviation legend in an aviation legend!

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The first thing I remember about the plane was how loud it was, and how that powerful engine shook that plane. As Kermit brought the power up, I couldn’t stop smiling. The plane accelerated as if it had been wound up tight eagerly waiting flight and the acceleration pinned me to the
seat. As we eloped into the sky the trees got smaller and my smile even bigger. After a few low passes over the audience, we came back and landed. I was in a state of euphoria, and had to be gently reminded to get out of the airplane as I would have likely stayed there the night if not prompted! After the ride, I was invited to sit in the pilot’s seat for pictures. One of the museum staff saw me looking over the controls and contemplating my great escape and jokingly told me “don’t start it up”. Kermit and I posed for some pictures.

Shortly afterwards, I saw Kermit taxing an odd-looking amphibian airplane with an engine on the top that was painted like a leopard. It was a flying boat, a rare 1931 Sikorsky S-
39C, which was one of a few that are still flying. He motioned for me to jump in, and I climbed through the back of the airplane into it. I asked him why it was painted like a leopard, and he explained that these flying boats were originally intended for mission in Africa, and that they were painted to look familiar to the natives. Kermit added that while the concern was real, the natives actually didn’t have any problem accepting the aircraft but most Sikorsky S39s are still known for being painted like exotic animals.

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Kermit demonstrated a takeoff in the Sikorsky and he then handed the controls over to me to let me fly. I had never been in a seaplane before, and it couldn’t have been a better introduction to something that I would eventually seek experience and obtain my license in. After our last landing, he lowered the landing gear while we were sailing on the lake and then drove the plane up his boat ramp and then back down. We took off and landed back at Fantasy of Flight, where he encouraged me to get my seaplane license.

Pretty soon it was closing time, but Kermit stayed and gave us a tour of his woodworking shop where he was building a Benoist XIV from scratch to re-create the world’s first airline flight from Tampa to St. Petersburg in 1914. He also gave us a tour of the Howard Hughes’s Sikorsky S-43 that he had been restoring, as well as wild stories of Howard Hughes.

After the Sikorsky tour, Kermit invited us to meet his family and told us about his future plans for Fantasy of Flight. He explained that his goal has always been to inspire people. He explained that the airplanes are a metaphor for reaching beyond what you think you can do. In a way, I felt like he wanted to change the world, and I respected him for it. He was going to encourage people to soar as high as their dreams can reach, one person at a time. His passion inspired me to begin the beginning of a long process in which I began thinking of my own life and its associated goals, dreams, and aspirations. I left Fantasy of Flight realizing that I had more potential than I ever knew, and in a way thinking differently that when I first landed on that grass runway. It began as an expectation to ride in an exciting plane, but became a journey of self-discovery and introspection. It was the first part of a journey that would eventually push me from my network engineering job to following my dream to become an airline pilot.

I have kept in touch with Kermit since, and he was incredibly excited when I told him the news about getting a job at a major airline. I would like to express my sincere gratitude for the kind and generous actions of Kermit Weeks and Fantasy of Flight. This is a memory and experience that set me on a path toward accomplishing those dreams, and have used the lessons I learned that day to continue to inspire others.